But of course traditionalists ARE schismatics---from the Church of the "new orientation of Vatican II." This Church does not really exist, but rather consists of an ensemble of rootless novelties first introduced in the sixties and seventies. As long as the fanatics of Vatican II are alive, however, the persecution will continue. Truly one of the most bizarre epochs in Church history, rivaling if not surpassing the Arian crisis in magnitude. As Saint Basil said then: "Only one offense is vigorously punished--an accurate observance of our fathers' traditions." Sound familiar?

Traditionalists are not schismatics. I affirm Vatican Council II and also the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.Since I do not use an irrational inference in the interpretation.I have explained this often on my blog Eucharist and Mission.
The new orientation of Vatican Council II comes with the use of a false premise in the interpretation.This is the premise also used by traditionalists.
The Church does exist.The magisterial texts of the Church are traditional.With the inference emerge the errors and heresies.
The 'fanatics of Vatican Council II' are using the false premise in the interpretation of the Council. So the Council is non traditional. They want the Franciscans of the Immaculate to also accept this irrational version of Vatican Council II to be able to once again offer the Traditional Latin Mass(TLM).
The traditionalists, including Chris Ferrara and other members of the Roman Forum do not want to affirm Vatican Council II in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Here is the problem. They assume that the baptism of desire refers to visible to us cases in 2014. This is the false premise. We cannot see the dead. So the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were never exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma by Fr.Leonard Feeney,in the first place.
So being saved with ' a ray of the Truth' and 'seeds of the Word' are not exceptions to Tradition unless you assume that these cases are explicit, seen in the flesh.
The traditionalists do not want to afirm the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation and so now ,for example at the Roman Forum meeting in Italy, June 20, at which Chris Ferrara will be present, they will not affirm Vatican Council ( without the irrational premise).
Unfortunately this problem existed with friends of the Franciscans of the Immaculatem, like Bruno Gherardini and Roberto de Mattei. So there is no one to tell the Franciscans of the Immaculate to go ahead and affirm Vatican Council II ( without the inference) and this will be in accord with Tradition.They can then ask Fr.Fidenzio Volpi to do the same.
At least the Commissar cannot then claim that the FFI are rejecting Vatican Council II and so they cannot be allowed to offer the TLM.

It must be a very grim thing to be placed completely under the power of someone who not only dislikes your fundamental charism, but actively opposes it. The poor Sisters. Very cruel.

Amen Patrick A, Ubrimngtomn and Chris F:

I really dislike the mentality of Rev. Volpi, and I can only laugh at the folly of a Church that doesn't see the irony of calling him "Commissar."

Volpi's statements are so vague that it seems his intention is to slowly suffocate the FFI priests and sisters with the pillow of nothing more than innuendo. If there is a specific problem, it can be named. If there's not, then perhaps something else is afoot.

I am watching this whole episode, and the parallel story playing out in NY Archdiocese at Holy Innocents, with increasing scrutiny about the intentions of the Church's bureaucracy.

While I stand with Gamber, Dobszay and Ratzinger on the Roman Missal and Roman Catholic culture, I note that The Church establishment, contra JP2 and B16, never misses an opportunity to fail at showing mere generosity to Catholics who want to exercise their right to the "Extraordinary Form" (much less shepherding).

Here's a story about how obtuse the Church bureaucracy can be when it is indulging its totalitarian liturgical ideology. The story is recounted by Fr. J. P. Parsons, in his essay in Fr. Kocik's book "The Reform of the Reform?" I quote:

"On July 3, 1999, Cardinal Medina Estevez, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, signed a protocol beginning with the splendid assertion that "After the Liturgical Restoration mandated by the Second Vatican Council, a certain group of Catholic faithful appeared, [who were] strongly attached to preceding forms of the Roman Liturgical tradition." This is like saying that "After England turned Protestant, a group of Englishman appeared who were strongly attached to the Old Religion."

Now that statement by Cdl. Estevez is packed with irony, but, as other commissars will tell you, "This is not a laughing matter...Comrade."

Cardinal Estevez is from South America, Chile to be exact.

Here is a three minute video of the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate who do not seem to be wanted in the heart of the Church?

We need them!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The 70's called.. and they want their Church back..
It's starting again, just when we might have thought that there might have been the first glimmerings of the Second Spring.
There is no end to the hatred and fear of the Old Religion among the old men in the Vatican and Chanceries who sense the bankruptcy of the "New Pentecost" but will never admit it.
The events of Feb-March 2013 have been the greatest challenge to my ecclesial faith I've ever experienced.